Ep 14 How to Stay Calm and in Control During Conversations with a Narcissist
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Feel like you have no control and can feel crazy town when having a conversation with a narcissist? Been there, girl, glad to say I'm not there anymore and I wanna help you too. So stay tuned for my four ways to gain control and keep calm while having these not so fun conversations.
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Episode 2 (about gaslighting and more)
Episode 5 (Grey Rock Method_
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Speaker 1: (00:00) Feel like you have no control and can feel crazy town when having a conversation with a narcissist Been there, girl, glad to say I'm not there anymore and I wanna help you too. So stay tuned for my four ways to gain control and keep calm while having these not so fun conversations. Speaker 1: (00:19) Hey, Queens, welcome to, but still she thrives. Do you wanna stop getting caught up in that wicked web of a creepy crawling narcissist? Do you find yourself up late at night replaying the abuse you put up with and wondering how you can heal now? Do you wake up hoping for healthy relationships and peace only to feel totally exhausted? And mind? Girl, I see you. I'm Christy. I too had to disconnect from toxic people in my life and I wished I could undo the damage I felt ashamed, lonely, and kind of lost. But I'm a stubborn Italian and I refuse to give up. I found ways to recalibrate my mind and body more quickly than I thought and can now share them with you. In this podcast, you'll find coping tools, healing methods, and confidence boosters so you can trust yourself and find peace and freedom. So, shields up, ladies, let's go protect our peace. Are you feeling lost after post narcissistic abuse? I'm your girl. I got you. This is my specialty. Go check out ways to work with me at www.christyjade.com. Click on work with me and find all the fun ways you can work with me, whether it's one-on-one coaching or a pre-recorded boundaries course. Speaker 1: (01:39) Look, I'm a big believer in people can change and grow, but narcissist not so much. It is basically like 0.0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 1% chance that they can. And I'm not here for waiting around and neither are you. So narcissists are constantly trying to find a way to control you. They do this by deflecting, making you feel like you're being unreasonable. And lighting, which I go into detail in an episode two if you're interested. So when you're stuck in a conversation with a narcissist, it can be hard to keep your cool and stay focused on the goal of the conversation or whatever you're trying to get across, right? Because they can make you feel like cuco, crazy cuco. But if the situation calls for it, there are four tips here that will help you keep control of the conversation. Number one, and this is a mantra of mine, don't take the bait. Speaker 1: (02:32) They want a fight. They want the power struggle. It's important to remember that a narcissist, they wanna win, right? It's their whole shtick. And the only way they can feel like they've won is what if you lose whoever they're talking to. So if you're in this conversation, they want you to lose. They're not gonna leave till you've lost. So don't take that bite bait. They can really wear you down. If you don't get into the power struggle with them. Their only option is to eventually walk away from the conversation, or I prefer to walk away from it myself, usually, right? So they will over time get sick of your lack of reaction. And that's called the Gray Rock Method, which I have a whole episode and I will put all relative, um, episodes in the show notes, the description of the podcast. So anyway, this is one of those moments where it's okay to not be nice and to not give anything away. Speaker 1: (03:26) You don't have to react emotionally or defensively and give them what they want. That is what they want, an emotional response from you that validates their feelings as being justified in some way, even though we know they're not, right? So this leads us to number two. Don't succumb to their demands. Set those boundaries and stick to them. The narcissist will try to guilt you into doing things for them. But don't let them set your boundaries. Stick to them. Be hardcore. Be that fierce queen. You are . You don't need to give an explanation. If they give pushback, just stand firm and just repeat whatever it is. No, I'm not comfortable doing that. Or no, I'm not going to do that. I need to go whatever it is. Um, hopefully you can have these conversations if you have to converse with them on the phone where it's easier to click and get away. Speaker 1: (04:17) If not, make sure you have a way to get out of a conversation with a narcissist in general. That is always a recommendation of mine. So stay in control of the conversation and if you need to leave it, leave it. Number three, do not talk about emotional things with them and do not get emotional. This is, this is one of the hardest things to do, especially when they're trying to manipulate and twist your mind all around. Okay? But it's important to remember they're not your friend. They don't care about you. That might be hard to hear if you're in the beginning phases of overcoming this, but they only care about themselves and how they look in front of others, right? The narcissist will try very hard to get a reaction out of you by saying something hurtful or offensive. Do not let them, if someone does something mean or insulting toward me, I tend to get upset at first cuz I may believe them, right? Speaker 1: (05:11) Like I'm an empath. We start to, we self-reflect. But with narcissist, you must realize this person doesn't actually care about your feelings. They care about making themselves feel better by getting under your skin and taking what control. So in order for us to not get sucked into this cycle of negativity over and over again, we need some self-control skills when dealing with narcissists. So do not talk about emotional things with them. Keep it very like surface level, okay? You're, you cannot trust them. They will use your emotions against you any opportunity. This includes sharing personal details. Even if they ask, you can just say, oh, I'm not gonna share that right now. Or, oh, I got just deflect. Get out of the situation. Or just if you can be firm with them, which I'm at that point, but I know it's hard in the beginning, but try to be as firm as you can and just say, you know, I'm not, I'm not comfortable sharing that information right now. Speaker 1: (06:10) Okay? And also, do not let them know how they make you feel. Don't say you've hurt me and you've done this. They don't care. And that's, that's again, giving them the control that they love and need. And it can backfire on you. So avoid any sort of emotional discussion and getting emotional. Save the tears for later in your bathtub and a bond bun. Number four, explain nothing. If you're stuck in a conversation with a narcissist, the best thing to do is give zero explanation for anything, even if they ask. They love to drag explanations out of people. If you're not succumbing to their needs, like we talked about, they're going to try to dig and they know you may be a people pleaser or an empath or just a normal human who doesn't wanna pa make people feel bad. So they will try to dig in there and get explanations out of you. Speaker 1: (07:05) And you need to, this is really you, where you need to stand your ground and not give any explanations. Keep your answers short and sweet or not sweet. That's okay too. You can save that sweetness for someone who deserves it. So you can be firm and direct and get out of the conversation as soon as possible. This is something just as a society especially, I don't know, in America, I am not, I can't speak for other countries, I don't live there, but I feel like we overexplain ourselves in general because we don't wanna make people feel bad. Like if we can't go to something, we sometimes will be like, well, I have this and that and that. And it's like this panic you feel like you have to explain. And my husband, who's the sweetest guy in the world, has said to me at, at times, like, why do you always feel like you have to explains so much? Speaker 1: (07:53) And I think that's part of my own trauma and my past with narcissist, um, relationship dynamic is I always had to explain, right? So we're done explaining queens, we're done explaining. This could be for narcissist, for anyone practice not explaining so much. Just saying, I'd love to but I can't make it. That's like for a regular example of RSVPing to somebody. Um, but then with a narcissist, they love, they love a detailed explanation so that they can actually use that against you and guilt trip you. So the shorter the no explanation, the better. Okay? All that being said, we're also human. So sometimes we may falter. In the beginning when I was, you know, getting out of a narcissistic situation, I, I was building my strength, I was getting confident, I was setting boundaries. I would falter sometimes. So don't beat yourself up, right? But remember that your feelings aren't the problem when you're dealing with a narcissist, it can be really tempting to think your reactions are what's causing the situation to escalate and get outta hand. Speaker 1: (09:02) This is often not true at all. Narcissists have this like, innate ability to push our buttons and make us feel small. It's part of their charm. So, or so they think, right? In reality though, there's nothing wrong with your emotions. They're just a natural response to their weird behavior . So try not to judge yourself too harshly when things may have gotten heated in the past or if you lose control for a moment now or moving forward. But now you have these tips to generally keep yourself calm and in control. So just to recap, do not take the bait. They want that fight. Don't get sucked in. Don't succumb to their demand. Set your boundaries. Do not talk about emotional things. Do not get emotional and explain absolutely nothing to them, right? Right. Ladies, you are amazing. You are fierce. And dang girl, you look good. All right. You got this queen. See you in the next episode. If you are loving this podcast, but want a little more customized guidance, go to my website at www dot www.christyJade.com and go to the work with me tab to find ways you can work with me. I would love to help you. Also, don't forget to look in the show notes, a k a, the description of this podcast for any related links that I mention and more. Christy Jade fun.